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More Amig4Be propaganda: AmigaOS as dogmatic cult


While Amiga Community was known as resilliance,

off course Amiga is hardware that runs AmigaOS or alike.
So it said seeing CUSA trolls trying to built kind of their community,

on spitting real Amiga community. Newest example comes from infamous Amig4Be blog
in Italian only. Here is poor Google translate:

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Warning , this post has been written for pure whim anthropological … good read
During the heated debate following topic in a forum dedicated to Amiga  Amiga C = MINI , a minority of users / supporters AmigaOS 4.x (OS4) & AmigaOne, proudly exhibited their definition / dogma of Amiga …
Amiga computer that is capable of running natively AmigaOS,
Which would allow you to draw … and an alleged substantial evolution of the Amiga from Commodore failure so far (even if in the form of pseudo  niche technology market ).
Although the former Amiga users in the world (perhaps millions of people) for many years believe over, finished, dead, finished, the historic platform launched by Commodore, a few hundred people out of billions of human beings computerized argue the opposite indicating a with rambling computers such as Amiga Amiga directed evolution and consistent in every aspect starting from the technical and information technology.

Let ‘then what kind of consistency is that these … OS4 fanboy operating systems known as Amiga OS are as follows: 1 ) the  Workbench Commodore release from 1.x to 3.0 ( 68k ) (later upgraded to 3.1) 2 ) Amiga OS 3.5 and 3.9 ( 68k ) (from 3.5 Workbench again became the name of the only desktop environment, and the OS renamed AmigaOS) 3 ) AmigaOS 4.x ( PowerPC ) (all versions produced by Hyperion for a range of ppc)

The OS of points 1 and 2 have been written for hardware Classic (68k), ie for the Amiga closely related to the original models designed and produced by Commodore (in fact the only universally known and accepted as the Amiga)
Being an obvious fact for all these releases OS3 is the correspondence between:
computer that runs natively AmigaOS <=> Amiga

 

The dogma becomes a definition is not incorrect but useless and redundant (there were also clones hardware as Minimig and a recent new version aga, but these are from the speech and reasoning of the post)
Now we come to the controversial OS4 PPC, whose history is very troubled and which at the moment we only care about the fact that the software maker Hyperion house is in possession of the original code OS3 Workbench up to version 3.1 (not perfectly clear, however, whether and which parts of the code are 3.9 Aos their possession)
So we know that the original sources are certainly in the hands of Hyperion, a factor that the suggestion overall OS4 fans will have an important role as a fetish
The evolution of information technology in recent decades has sent to be destroyed in the desktop 68k and PowerPC architectures, proclaiming the winner is the Intel x86 architecture, with a recently advanced to Arm you start getting into this dimension thanks to dirt cheap computer always perform better from extremely low consumption and operating thanks to the dedicated Linux distro. E ‘should be stressed at this point that never was produced by Commodore any computer on PPC, and even there is no record of his plans in this regard.
Some programmers aware of the complex vicissitudes of „relics“ Amiga, such as the original code of AmigaOS in question do not have problems to understand and explain the reason for an almost complete rewrite of the operating system OS4 despite the sources owned by Hyperion .. .
There is no need to know the original code to redo or create the key elements of an OS, abstracting original architecture, on which there is, and there was a huge technical documentation since the days of Commodore.

fact OS4 was preceded by two systems operating analogues as Aros and Morphos, the first designed with farsightedness order not to depend so pinched by a particular hardware architecture and the other for PPC systems such as the Apple Mac G4 …

During the years that raged a fratricidal war between these sons of AmigaOS, OS4 fans have always tried to strengthen their convictions High Pure based on the fact that only their operating system could legally be called AmigaOS, and the only one to have a close link with the previous OS3 thanks to the original source available to Hyperion.
For without the strict definition of a close relationship between OS3 and OS4 OS4 that places closer to the „predecessor“ than the other two OS Amiga Like …  the core business of Hyperion would ultimately based on the mere exploitation of the trademark „AmigaOS „in their possession. 
Although this criticism was bearable after all, it has become untenable since the field is decreased C = USA bringing together brands and Commodore Amiga in its recovery plan largely covered in this blog.
C = USA has quickly become the worst nightmare of this small group of individuals intent to support the ideas increasingly unlikely * … * (eg months ago in one of a thousand frenzied attempts to discredit C = U.S., a bunch of Amiga Taliban were convinced, from an old web page is not updated for years, that the marks were lying Amiga actually been abandoned and then purchase at a ridiculously low price, the most foolish of all also believed to be able to sell all at C = U.S. to a penny for pure scarring …)
The Code of OS4 is clearly closed and can not therefore snoop on what’s inside, but the logic, along with a series of historical data, it helps to understand that fundamentally this link with OS3 primarily concerned with the cloning of its structure and repetition of „philosophy“ (a similar relationship also exists in Morphos and Aros, with some common characteristics such as level compatibility of bees with OS3).
Supporters OS4 which evidently nothing matters to look out the modernity, do not want (and can not ) give up the idea of a tangible and unique umbilical cord between OS3 and OS4, otherwise the collapse of the entire mental construct that (not clear why) these people carry out daily for several years, until that which seems to have now become a religion computer.
Unfortunately for them, the followers of the cult of dogmatic AmigaOS, to support their argument did not exhibit more than an insignificant giudizo of appreciation to OS4 by one of the creators of the original Aos, an OS which is more than a quarter of a century ago. ..
A degree of satisfaction then. Not a technical analysis … but smoke and mirrors. Resulting even offensive about who had tried calmly and patiently to bring Amiga in a debate at a minimum computer.
Therefore the thread to which users are more fanatical than OS4 cling to comply with the Supreme Dogma of departure, rather than thin at this point is entirely imaginary . And on the other hand would not even understand what pride can never be a close connection for OS4 in 2012, up to the level of the sources, with an operating system as old and created for the hardware resources of computer old to over 20 years ago ( why OS4 has been totally rewritten in fact), but it is known that in the environment based on a dogma of reason and logic are not certain of the house … from here easily understand why the image chosen for this post. The busines of AmigaOne in fact is based on the application of stickers on Hardware obsolete poorly supported from time to time by Hyperion with its OS4 namely computers PPC with the worst price / performance ratio of the history of computing, that have nothing to do with the original Commodore Amiga. According to the definition / dogma so far treated if the work of porting of Hyperion OS4 for any X architecture that would become instantly Amiga (even if the ‘ hardware of a multifunction printer or a toaster) and some improvised wheel company may affix the sticker AmigaOne … So much for the development and direct and coherent Classic Amiga Amiga professed to far from ministers. Such reasoning explains why Hyperion never proceed to a port of OS4 on x86, because their business is also reason for being and especially thanks to the convictions of a dogmatic nature of its customers, which include also a kind of ancient hatred and rivalry with Intel architecture evolved, economic and handsome. Against this become much more than grotesque criticism historically addressed to C = USA by supporters OS4, since C = Hardware employs current mainstream and fully supported by the C = OS Linux … plus a hardware where it can be run Aros natively and / or virtual machine . Thus laying the shredder also OS3, since Aros also won the original Amiga 68k complete with a new kickstart  open source. To dismiss this sort of delusional and pathetic mysticism of AmigaOS and Amiga fanboy and make a closing speech more serious, we can take reference to Apple and understand that it is a close link between hardware of different ages even in that case there … house cupertino the obvious intent to produce competitive machines rose following the technological evolution for families of cpu: 68k, PPC, X86, with its upheavals of the operating system MacOS and now has created an ecosystem where iphone, ipad ( iOS) are becoming crucial to a design which could be critical for the typical computer system, heavily influencing the work of the same competition.
So, in any way you think, deny the relationship between current hardware (C = Amiga, Amiga etc.) with those of 15/25 years ago is not only an act of objectivity aimed to make discrimination or worse slurs, as a logical and evidence shows are all alien to reality objectively Amiga Classic and linked to the original size just by merely exploiting brands.
What is really in the eyes of the end user (ex Amiga or otherwise) it is important to arrive at a final judgment? In my opinion these are general computers, in addition to feeling the final which includes aesthetic and form (Apple docet), keep in mind above all the software available, the evolutionary state of the os used and then the price / performance ratio (all features in which the original amiga excelled)

If you want to make it a matter of „belief“ or „sentimental“ … ok … but feelings do not alter the objective results of the bench and do not lead to a discount on the final price (anzi. .. can lead to price out all logic of the market, including trends, such as the absurd AmigaOne x1000 showed)

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Example of C=USA propaganda


Source Amig4Be

C=USA is permanently trying to represent itself as continuation of CBM, trying to forcefully install

itself in peoples mind as „real Commodore and Amiga“ even they obtained 

just the name licences as late of 2010, and have nothing to do with any of past designs.

This is shiny example of faking computer history, by Amig4Be

Fake Commodore history by CUSA

 

 

 

 

Amig4Be AmigaOS 4 criticism update: evil anticusa blog


Original text in Italian

http://www.commodorecomputerblog.com/p/controinformazione.html

30/06/2012

Oggi mi sono reso conto di quanto grave sia il disagio psichico di alcuni esponenti della scena amiga.  Si tratta di veri e propri psicolabili irrimediabilmente alterati nella loro capacità di giudizio dalla sconsiderata azione di alcune ridicole aziende, nonché siti e forum ad esse vicini, che hanno condotto un iniziale gruppo di irriducibili amighisti oltre il punto di non ritorno di un’estinzione ormai pressoché certa…e taluni persino oltre la stessa sanità mentale.
Alcuni individui di questo spurgo d’integralisti, seguaci del dogma informatico AmigaOS, sono arrivati persino a stilare delle Black List in cui segnalare (agli altri pochissimi fanatici della stessa staffa…) utenti e persone critiche con OS4 e/o vicine a C=USA
Benché sia legittimo aprire un sito o un blog critico contro chicchessia, l’azione fascista dei sedicenti amighisti talebani, volta ad intimorire persone comuni anziché limitarsi a criticare l’operato delle aziende ritenute avverse, ben dipingel’ignobile essenza di un’intera scena sprofondata negli inferi della cieca follia.

English Google Translate

Today I realized how serious the mental illness of some members of the amiga scene. It is true psychically irreparably altered in their ability to judge the reckless actions of some ridiculous companies, as well as sites and forums to them neighbors, who conducted an initial group of diehard Amiga beyond the point of no return now to extinction pretty sure … and some even beyond sanity.
Some individuals of this purge of fundamentalists, followers of the dogma computer AmigaOS, even came to draw up the Black List where indicated (with a few other fanatics in the same bracket …) OS4 users and people with critical and / or close to C = USA
https://anticusa.wordpress.com/commodoreusa-fanboys-n-spammers-list-block-em/
Although it is legitimate to open a website or blog critic against anybody, the action of self-styled fascist Taliban Amiga, designed to intimidate ordinary people rather than simply criticize the companies considered adverse, dipingel’ignobile very essence of an entire scene sunk the underworld of blind madness.

So what we gonna answer with music, love and style

One must notice I do attack company, fan trolling and company announcements and policies, but beside well deserved troll label I don`t attack personal properties of personnas. That is big difference.

Also, anyone listed is free to contact I at rasvoja@gmail.com and explain himself,change etc. and will be removed from what I observe as current troll / propaganda list.

Update

A nice 3D animated tribute has been posted on 27.10.2012. as video response to famous

Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz

Its well concepted, retro, cyberpunk and steampunk, nicely done

But description is missleading twice:

3D Art against the fascism of Amiga OS4 fanatics:https://anticusa.wordpress.com/ (Nazi’s Black List Blog)

                No 3D art can be against I, this is not OS4 fanatics blog and isn`t fascist for sure. Yes, it does host troll list.

http://www.commodorecomputerblog.com/
By Real C=Amiga fan (Italian Language)

Amig4Be is Commodore USA fan that only abuses Commodore and Amiga brands to promote them.

See his blog.