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More Amig4Be propaganda: AmigaOS as dogmatic cult


While Amiga Community was known as resilliance,

off course Amiga is hardware that runs AmigaOS or alike.
So it said seeing CUSA trolls trying to built kind of their community,

on spitting real Amiga community. Newest example comes from infamous Amig4Be blog
in Italian only. Here is poor Google translate:

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Warning , this post has been written for pure whim anthropological … good read
During the heated debate following topic in a forum dedicated to Amiga  Amiga C = MINI , a minority of users / supporters AmigaOS 4.x (OS4) & AmigaOne, proudly exhibited their definition / dogma of Amiga …
Amiga computer that is capable of running natively AmigaOS,
Which would allow you to draw … and an alleged substantial evolution of the Amiga from Commodore failure so far (even if in the form of pseudo  niche technology market ).
Although the former Amiga users in the world (perhaps millions of people) for many years believe over, finished, dead, finished, the historic platform launched by Commodore, a few hundred people out of billions of human beings computerized argue the opposite indicating a with rambling computers such as Amiga Amiga directed evolution and consistent in every aspect starting from the technical and information technology.

Let ‘then what kind of consistency is that these … OS4 fanboy operating systems known as Amiga OS are as follows: 1 ) the  Workbench Commodore release from 1.x to 3.0 ( 68k ) (later upgraded to 3.1) 2 ) Amiga OS 3.5 and 3.9 ( 68k ) (from 3.5 Workbench again became the name of the only desktop environment, and the OS renamed AmigaOS) 3 ) AmigaOS 4.x ( PowerPC ) (all versions produced by Hyperion for a range of ppc)

The OS of points 1 and 2 have been written for hardware Classic (68k), ie for the Amiga closely related to the original models designed and produced by Commodore (in fact the only universally known and accepted as the Amiga)
Being an obvious fact for all these releases OS3 is the correspondence between:
computer that runs natively AmigaOS <=> Amiga

 

The dogma becomes a definition is not incorrect but useless and redundant (there were also clones hardware as Minimig and a recent new version aga, but these are from the speech and reasoning of the post)
Now we come to the controversial OS4 PPC, whose history is very troubled and which at the moment we only care about the fact that the software maker Hyperion house is in possession of the original code OS3 Workbench up to version 3.1 (not perfectly clear, however, whether and which parts of the code are 3.9 Aos their possession)
So we know that the original sources are certainly in the hands of Hyperion, a factor that the suggestion overall OS4 fans will have an important role as a fetish
The evolution of information technology in recent decades has sent to be destroyed in the desktop 68k and PowerPC architectures, proclaiming the winner is the Intel x86 architecture, with a recently advanced to Arm you start getting into this dimension thanks to dirt cheap computer always perform better from extremely low consumption and operating thanks to the dedicated Linux distro. E ‘should be stressed at this point that never was produced by Commodore any computer on PPC, and even there is no record of his plans in this regard.
Some programmers aware of the complex vicissitudes of „relics“ Amiga, such as the original code of AmigaOS in question do not have problems to understand and explain the reason for an almost complete rewrite of the operating system OS4 despite the sources owned by Hyperion .. .
There is no need to know the original code to redo or create the key elements of an OS, abstracting original architecture, on which there is, and there was a huge technical documentation since the days of Commodore.

fact OS4 was preceded by two systems operating analogues as Aros and Morphos, the first designed with farsightedness order not to depend so pinched by a particular hardware architecture and the other for PPC systems such as the Apple Mac G4 …

During the years that raged a fratricidal war between these sons of AmigaOS, OS4 fans have always tried to strengthen their convictions High Pure based on the fact that only their operating system could legally be called AmigaOS, and the only one to have a close link with the previous OS3 thanks to the original source available to Hyperion.
For without the strict definition of a close relationship between OS3 and OS4 OS4 that places closer to the „predecessor“ than the other two OS Amiga Like …  the core business of Hyperion would ultimately based on the mere exploitation of the trademark „AmigaOS „in their possession. 
Although this criticism was bearable after all, it has become untenable since the field is decreased C = USA bringing together brands and Commodore Amiga in its recovery plan largely covered in this blog.
C = USA has quickly become the worst nightmare of this small group of individuals intent to support the ideas increasingly unlikely * … * (eg months ago in one of a thousand frenzied attempts to discredit C = U.S., a bunch of Amiga Taliban were convinced, from an old web page is not updated for years, that the marks were lying Amiga actually been abandoned and then purchase at a ridiculously low price, the most foolish of all also believed to be able to sell all at C = U.S. to a penny for pure scarring …)
The Code of OS4 is clearly closed and can not therefore snoop on what’s inside, but the logic, along with a series of historical data, it helps to understand that fundamentally this link with OS3 primarily concerned with the cloning of its structure and repetition of „philosophy“ (a similar relationship also exists in Morphos and Aros, with some common characteristics such as level compatibility of bees with OS3).
Supporters OS4 which evidently nothing matters to look out the modernity, do not want (and can not ) give up the idea of a tangible and unique umbilical cord between OS3 and OS4, otherwise the collapse of the entire mental construct that (not clear why) these people carry out daily for several years, until that which seems to have now become a religion computer.
Unfortunately for them, the followers of the cult of dogmatic AmigaOS, to support their argument did not exhibit more than an insignificant giudizo of appreciation to OS4 by one of the creators of the original Aos, an OS which is more than a quarter of a century ago. ..
A degree of satisfaction then. Not a technical analysis … but smoke and mirrors. Resulting even offensive about who had tried calmly and patiently to bring Amiga in a debate at a minimum computer.
Therefore the thread to which users are more fanatical than OS4 cling to comply with the Supreme Dogma of departure, rather than thin at this point is entirely imaginary . And on the other hand would not even understand what pride can never be a close connection for OS4 in 2012, up to the level of the sources, with an operating system as old and created for the hardware resources of computer old to over 20 years ago ( why OS4 has been totally rewritten in fact), but it is known that in the environment based on a dogma of reason and logic are not certain of the house … from here easily understand why the image chosen for this post. The busines of AmigaOne in fact is based on the application of stickers on Hardware obsolete poorly supported from time to time by Hyperion with its OS4 namely computers PPC with the worst price / performance ratio of the history of computing, that have nothing to do with the original Commodore Amiga. According to the definition / dogma so far treated if the work of porting of Hyperion OS4 for any X architecture that would become instantly Amiga (even if the ‘ hardware of a multifunction printer or a toaster) and some improvised wheel company may affix the sticker AmigaOne … So much for the development and direct and coherent Classic Amiga Amiga professed to far from ministers. Such reasoning explains why Hyperion never proceed to a port of OS4 on x86, because their business is also reason for being and especially thanks to the convictions of a dogmatic nature of its customers, which include also a kind of ancient hatred and rivalry with Intel architecture evolved, economic and handsome. Against this become much more than grotesque criticism historically addressed to C = USA by supporters OS4, since C = Hardware employs current mainstream and fully supported by the C = OS Linux … plus a hardware where it can be run Aros natively and / or virtual machine . Thus laying the shredder also OS3, since Aros also won the original Amiga 68k complete with a new kickstart  open source. To dismiss this sort of delusional and pathetic mysticism of AmigaOS and Amiga fanboy and make a closing speech more serious, we can take reference to Apple and understand that it is a close link between hardware of different ages even in that case there … house cupertino the obvious intent to produce competitive machines rose following the technological evolution for families of cpu: 68k, PPC, X86, with its upheavals of the operating system MacOS and now has created an ecosystem where iphone, ipad ( iOS) are becoming crucial to a design which could be critical for the typical computer system, heavily influencing the work of the same competition.
So, in any way you think, deny the relationship between current hardware (C = Amiga, Amiga etc.) with those of 15/25 years ago is not only an act of objectivity aimed to make discrimination or worse slurs, as a logical and evidence shows are all alien to reality objectively Amiga Classic and linked to the original size just by merely exploiting brands.
What is really in the eyes of the end user (ex Amiga or otherwise) it is important to arrive at a final judgment? In my opinion these are general computers, in addition to feeling the final which includes aesthetic and form (Apple docet), keep in mind above all the software available, the evolutionary state of the os used and then the price / performance ratio (all features in which the original amiga excelled)

If you want to make it a matter of „belief“ or „sentimental“ … ok … but feelings do not alter the objective results of the bench and do not lead to a discount on the final price (anzi. .. can lead to price out all logic of the market, including trends, such as the absurd AmigaOne x1000 showed)

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Tom Wright`s C=USA in Conclusion


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I was honestly on the fence about CUSA in the beginning. When they released the C64x, I had some real faith in them because the breadbox was very cool looking. Even though it didn’t run anything „Amiga“ OS-wise, it didn’t bother me because it looked like a C64. When they came out stating that these were going to be Linux specific machines, I was actually a bit excited because honestly, I’m a big Linux fan. I pictured something like System 76 who is loved and embrassed by the Linux community and often gives back with Open-Source drivers and such.

As of recently however, and after really looking at this Amiga Mini thing and their A1000 (sorta clone), and also after seeing how Barry responds to his customers on his own forum (blasting them and then kicking them off), I see no hope for this company. I actually feel sorry for Leo because I think his heart is in the right place… hell maybe Barry’s is also but he’s just so brash and angry toward customers and potential customers that it makes him incredibly unlikable.

…but the point of this post is to talk about why they fail so miserably as a computer company.

Operating System:
Again, I’m a huge Linux fan, so CUSA choosing Linux as an OS seemed like a great idea to me. Linux today very much reminds me of Amiga in 1990. It’s a great OS that runs circles around Windows in almost every way and the Open Source movement is just amazing. From Makerbots to Ubuntu and Blender, I truely believe that Open Source is the future of technology because we don’t have to rely on giant, multi-billion dollar companies to make product and software decisions for us anymore (but that’s another soapbox).

So CUSA release „Commodore OS“. What? You made your own distro? How bold! How exciting! How…. wait a second, this is Linux Mint.. not only is this Linux Mint but it’s a really crappy version of Linux Mint. There is a reason we have a software Package Manager in Mint… it’s because if you add all the software in the distro, it becomes crazy unruly in size and install and people won’t use 90% of the software anyway. Also, adding ALL the bells and whistles in Compiz is just obnoxious. What makes distros like Mint so cool is that you get to customize it to your workflow. All the COS distro does it take Linux Mint with Compiz and turns on all the fluff (which most adults tend to avoid).

It would be much better to use Mint or Ubuntu as they are but with support… real support like System 76 does. Make drivers and software to support your hardware and of course, make it Open Source. That’s the power of that community. If you don’t support Open Source then don’t even bother using Linux…. you’ll just be seen as someone taking advantage of the „Free“ part which is not the point of Open Source. It’s „Free“ as in Freedom!

Commodore-Amiga.org
Once again, I’m going to talk about freedom. Claiming to be a supporter of Open Source software and then having an extremely censored forum to post on goes against everything that Open Source stands for. Commodore-Amiga.org is the China of open forums. It is regulated with an iron fist. Any post questioning the decision of CUSA tends to be quickly locked or deleted and people involved tend to just „disappear“ from the forum.

There is something else that bothers me about the forum. It is the least active Amiga forum that I visit (by far)… which makes me seriously question the user stats (the number of online people there). Are they making those numbers up? I bet there aren’t 3 posts a day on that forum yet it shows hundreds of onlookers. Is this accurate? I have no idea but it is strange and this company has been known to fudge things in the past.

One of the craziest things about the forum is reading Barry’s replies to customers. I don’t think he understands that these people are the people that are going to make or break his business because he treats them with a kind of distain I’ve never seen from a business owner before. Does Barry think that having a Steve Jobs personality is going to make him a successful business owner? I’m not sure but it’s quite disturbing.

Commodore Amiga Mini
I don’t even know what to say about this product. It feels like CUSA believes that any product with the name „Commodore Amiga“ will sell well no matter what it is or how much it will cost. Don’t they read the posts people make in the news forums? How can they see this as a successful venture? I just don’t understand.

CUSA Self Image
CUSA tries so hard to make themselves look legitimate that they end up looking foolish. We’ve seen this MANY times now. Why try and make yourselves out to be something you are not unless you are purposely trying to mislead customers. Is this in fact what they are attempting to do or is this Barry saying „I’m big and important“? I don’t understand the need to be perceived as a large corporation. There is nothing wrong with being small… it’s actually very popular to be small and hip in the tech industry right now. The only result of their attempt to deceive is to be seen as deceptive.

Chances of Survival
At current course, not a snowball’s chance in hell. I can see no way that this company will be embrassed by anyone other than the incredibly niave. Unless they make drastic changes to their business plan (and quickly), I predict that they will be completely gone within 5 years.

I realize that people have been talking about CUSA for awhile now but I tend to not read those threads because people get emotional about anything Amiga and I wanted to come to my own conclusion about this particular company… so I’m sorry if this is a repeat of what others have said. I am non-partial to any Amiga camp at the moment (I do not consider CUSA as an Amiga Camp by the way… only AOS, MOS and Aros). I actually feel that all the current Amiga camps act with great poise and professionalism when it comes to business and customers. I’m very impressed with them.

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