Архиве ознака: Barry Altman

Barry promises no censorship at new forum!


Source C-USA forums

I agree with +99% of all the suggestions posted here. We now have access to all the data from the old forum; it’s just a matter of extracting what we need, formatting and converting it and then implementing it into all the new categories in our new forum. (not easy).

The topic sections will be greatly expanded to make things easy to use such as specific categories for each different product, sub categories for the various OS variations, hardware & software support, suggestions, general discussions…basically everything we had before, and a lot more. Please keep in mind this may take a week or so (just a guess), but it is our top priority now, along with the updates for Commodore OS Vision & Commodore OS Fusion.

Please keep this quote from the NEWS section in mind as we move forward in this endeavor:

„Please take the time to read our TOS and FAQ. Please understand that this is our official corporate forum, and as such it’s primary purpose is to promote and support our products, our customers, potential future customers and those that have an interest in our line of retro and innovative contemporary products.“

We have no intention to edit, remove, alter, dismiss or in any way censor any of your posts, replies or suggestions. And this specifically includes me . What seemed like a heavy hand in the previous forum will not be the normal operating procedure here. I only ask that things remain civil, constructive criticism is welcome and the postings reflect the true spirit of what we are trying to accomplish. Unlike most other public forums, I would only ask that you think of this forum as my personal living room. All are welcome, but please don’t spit on the floor, use an ashtray, refrain from making nasty comments about the drapes and furniture and treat all our guests respectfully.

Postings that trash our products, trolls, those that reverse engineer our products with the intent to exemplify the costs and sources with the intent to either expose our private business and manufacturing processes, those that discus and or in any way promote our competitors products and those that in any fashion run contrary to our main forum purpose (read the above paragraph) will be deleted. Since this company is privately held, the will be no conversations regarding sales figures, profits and distributions and any other private information that normally would be disclosed for a publicly traded corporation.

The look and feel of this forum will be greatly improved as we intend to apply a new skin (open to immediate discussion and suggestion) There is a huge selection of skins that are available; just Google „vBulletin ver 4.2.0 skins“. There are thousands of selections to choose from….dig in and start exploring.

Lots to do, and with your continued support and patience, we look forward to presenting a truly remarkable and unique forum experience that we can all enjoy.

Barry promised to be a good guy, but corporate TOS makes them eliminate any discussion and resistance. Great Barry, that is the way to clean hands!

And yes Barry who is reverse engeenering whose products, please that part once again!

Note: Original Statememt (c) Barry Altman, CommodoreUSA Bolded words: Frank Spiers, Scotland Footer Bold/Comments: Vox, Serbia

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Important update: this promise was broken with removing page about how to built Amiga mini like system on your own

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Cod3rs contrib: Commodore USA: Revisiting history or rewriting it?


Commodore USA: Revisiting history or rewriting it?
In the past couple of years, the developments in the computer world have been varied and widespread.
From GPU processing clusters, ARM platform dominance, small and low cost systems like the Raspberry Pi, and the return of Commodore.
The return of Commodore, you say? Yes. Well, not exactly.
In March 2010, a limited liability company named Commodore USA was founded in the United States by Barry S. Altman, specifically to market Commodore® branded all-in-one keyboard PCs and Amiga® branded PC compatible computers under license.
What that means in plain English is that Commodore USA is a new company that has a contract with the current trademark owners to produce, market and sell Commodore® and Amiga® branded computers.
While this is a perfectly legal and common practice, the company founded by Barry Altman is not the original Commodore Business Machines (later known as Commodore International Limited), as founded by Jack Tramiel. Nor is it affiliated with the original company that originally produced the legendary Commodore 64 and Amiga® computers in any way, shape or form.
In regards to Commodore USA, they typically use original design manufacturers (or ODMs) in Asia to supply them with their computer designs. Commodore USA’s licensed trademarks are simply applied to the existing product, and it is sold to the public as a Commodore® or Amiga® brand product. This is also a common practice within the computer industry, in many cases, manufacturers like Dell, HP and others do the exactly same thing.
However, what manufacturers like the aforementioned Dell and HP don’t do is misrepresent themselves as another company. Or claim they have a rich company legacy beyond their own. Unfortunately for Commodore USA, many aficionados of the original Commodore® brand have taken offense to that.
The reality of the matter is that Commodore USA licenses a few trademarks, applies those trademarks to products they don’t design, and sell them to the general public with “Commodore OS” products which are based on an existing free and open source Linux distribution.
There are no apparent laws being broken with these actions, but with a brand as historic and beloved as Commodore®, needless to say that some caution and forethought would be wise when representing such a precious history, even as a trademark licensee.
However, in business, there are no morals or reservations. Only the bottom line (profitability) counts in the business realm, and as long as Commodore USA operates within the boundaries or the law, there is unfortunately little recourse for fans of the original Commodore® and Amiga® machines.
But I (and others) believe that Commodore USA should be forthcoming with those who don’t know about the original magic of the Commodore® machines. When your company names its current models the same names of the original models by the original company, you inadvertently cause confusion and mislead those who are not aware of the history behind the original models.
So ten years from today, if a young adult refers to a Commodore 64 as „an Intel Atom based computer,“ then you’ll know the root of their ignorance.
Cod3r

Way Back Machine: Some of the past CUSA lies


 

Promised Amiga cases

Stealing Workbench name for OS and not showing it will be themed Linux

Also even C=OS is today beta 9 (almost two years after launch date) they wanted it to have 5.o name since Workbench 5 should be ahead of current AmigaOS Workbench 4.1 – trying to present isetlf fasely as AmigaOS ahead of AmigaOS

(as opossed to real Workbench history)

Read original news and how they praised AROS 

What they promised to AROS community (user Imica, Leo Negro, chief tech of C=USA)

Original news

„In response to an overwhelming demand from Amiga users worldwide, Commodore USA’s CTO Leo Nigro announced today that their new Amiga branded computers will be fully AROS compatible, and that they will be supporting the AROS open source community in every way possible. Mr. Nigro states “With the monumental strides that AROS has recently achieved, we realize the importance of accelerating this progress with funding that will enable this project to rapidly move forward and take it’s rightful place at the forefront of desktop operating systems”. With the recent announcement of their newly updated Commodore C64 model, and the acquisition of the Amiga brand exclusive trademark license, Commodore USA has once again catapulted the Commodore and Amiga namesake to the forefront of consumer electronics brand recognition.

as seen here 

Barron keeps up to it … almost

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=578528&postcount=183

Commodore USA was not set up as charity to support the development of AROS. It holds less than nothing of interest or importance to me, or 99.999999% of our intended market. It is a product that I or any other company could not use at all, as it has NO commercial value now, as is. So why are you all so concerned??
Our support was to help the group move ahead, and be part of a niche hobby group that seemed initially to be fun. I was wrong. Although some members expressed calm, sane, accurate and positive and open viewpoints, far too many exhibit behavior that is truly reprehensible. What is most amazing is the behavior and comments of the ‘Moderators“ UNREAL!! Aros is not a commercial product; it is not even close to a beta functional OS that has any use at this point in it’s development. Why some of you oppose the ONLY viable source of support is beyond me. Never has AROS received any promotion or publicity that comes remotely close to that that was gotten since my intended involvement. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. Why some of you find every facet of my life of interest is really sad. Don’t you have lives to live?

I’ll address some comments in particular. This is business, not nursery school. You know how much was spent and paid for the Commodore and Amiga IP over the last 15 years. Do your homework…we are talking close to 100 million dollars cumulative over all these years and by all the corporate entities that played the game. Price of entry is steep, and so is execution. Iggy has tons of more info that for some reason he chose not to share with you all.

As far as using abandoned artwork, no problem here. Marko Hirv cannot be reached. Period. I tried. No luck. And yes, I did email the company he is at now….again no reply. Find him…I’ll deal with him, or anyone else that falls into that category. Ever hear of an Iphone, boys and girls? Guess what…Jobs used it, took it, made it his own…knowing all the time it was the IP of Cisco. Ever hear of iTV, another recent product of the Apple guys. Also, no ownership…take it …use it…and then buy it if you must. Lawyers make a ton and the company gets what it wants, and the IP holder is paid. All good, no? That’s just a small example of how business is. I am not saying it is right, just giving you a lesson in reality.

Oh…..ONE MORE THING !!!! All you self righteous self appointed moral compasses out there with the huge mouths and not much else. JUST WHO LICENSED AMIGA.ORG THE AMIGA TRADEMARK PROPERTY APPEARING ON YOUR BANNER MASTHEAD??? NO ONE!!
Any comments on that flagrant violation of trademark law? I’ll be most interested in a reply to that one. Very interested.

So, enjoy your little clubhouse, I wish you well, and am sorry my leap into your little pond caused such an uproar. I never knew such muddy pond could even exist.

Barry“

Also, how they praise community, Amiga creativity and such

and then at real Amiga portals, you see how they bash all Amigas, especially trolls mentioned in menu

CUSA Custom configurator Programme


And as usual, they got thousands of requests …

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_CCC.aspx

CUSA list of dealers Infamous CCC

http://crap.forumotion.co.uk/t127-cusa-s-new-get-rich-quick-scheme

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s13e08-dead-celebrities

Respect goes to Mr. Franko!

The following is a plain English interpretation of CUSA’s latest scam, the COMMODORE CUSTOM CONFIGURATOR get rich quick scheme… Smilie

(Odd thing is there is no such word as „CONFIGURATOR“ in any proper English dictionary)… rofl

Original text in italics… Interpretation in bold…

——————————————————————-
COMMODORE CUSTOM CONFIGURATOR PROGRAM
AGREEMENT

Agreement made this date, between Commodore USA, LLC (hereinafter “CUSA” or “the company”) located at 6555 Powerline Road, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309 USA, and an individual, VAR (Value Added Reseller), Corporation, Limited Liability Company, Retailer, Wholesaler or IT Professional Consultant, located at , hereinafter “CCC”, (Commodore Custom Configurator).

FAKE COMMODORE USA LLC CUSTOM CONFIGURATION PROGRAM
AGREEMENT

CUSA located in some cheap premises in an out of the way shopping strip and an individual, VGR (Very Gullible Reseller) hereinafter „CCCM“ (CUSA Custom Con-Merchant).

Overview

Whereas the company has instituted a program whereby CCC’s shall be offered an opportunity to partake in the sales, marketing, manufacturing and distribution of custom configured Commodore and AMIGA branded computers, subject to the terms and conditions set forth below. This program will allow the authorized Commodore Custom Configurator the ability to offer their customers an infinite selection of officially branded Commodore and AMIGA trademarked computer products, comprised of approved components, selected and assembled to the specifications and requirements of their individual customers.

Overview

Whereas CUSA has started up a program whereby CCCM’s shall be offered an opportunity to partake in the rip off scam, conning, shoddy manufacturing and dodgy distribution of custom configured Fake Commodore and Fake Amiga branded cheap Japanese off the shelf computers, subject to laws laid down by Baron Barry below. This little scam will allow CUSA Custom Con-Merchants the ability to rip off their customers in an infinite amount of ways selling them fake branded Commodore and Amiga computer products, comprised of overpriced cheap Japanese components of dodgy origin and lumped in an overpriced case not even close to their customers requirements of expected specifications…

Requirements

Whereas the Commodore Custom Configurator shall be required to hold a current Business License in the jurisdiction in which they are located, and shall provide the company with proof of these applicable licensers.

Requirements

Whereas the CUSA Custom Con-Merchant shall be required to print out themselves a fake current Business Licence to try and fool the jurisdiction in which they are located and shall provide Barry with a copy of these just so he knows how big his fake business has become.

The Commodore Custom Configurator shall be required to operate from a retail sales location, office facility or warehouse. Home operations are not allowed under the CCC program.

The Commodore Custom Con-Marchant shall be required to operate from a fake retail sales location (Sauna, Massage Parlour etc…). Working from home is not recommended as when you get raided the authorities will most likely take possession of your house.

Commodore Custom Configurators shall be required to purchase Barebones units in minimum quantities of 10 units, and at discounted prices (presently approx.15%), and the configured completed products are to be sold to their customers at prices set by the CCC.
Commodore Custom Configurators shall be expected to have the knowledge, ability and technical experience in the fields of computer assembly, component procurement, , troubleshooting and the ability to install and support the Commodore Operating System, currently Commodore OS Vision and Commodore OS Fusion. Although our OS shall be promoted and installed on all systems initially, the CCC is free to install, sell or promote any OS of their choosing.

CUSA Custom Con-merchants shall be required to purchase a minimum of 10 1Kg packs of Heroin… Ooops, sorry a minimum of 10 empty cases at a discount price of 15% off the retail value from us, to be sold to their victims/ johns at whatever price you think you can get away with.

CUSA Custom Con-Merchants are not expected to know the slightest thing about what they are selling nor have any expertise in doing so, as basically you will be selling to brain dead computer junkies who are so far gone they won’t have a clue about what they are buying as long as it has a Commodore or Amiga logo on it, the poor saps will be happy.

Commodore Custom Configurators are free to populate their Commodore or AMIGA barebones units with any combination of FCC/CE approved components of their choice. 

CUSA Custom Con-Merchants are free to fill the cases with bricks or rubble or anything of their choice as the buyer won’t find out until they get home with the goods.

Terms

The Commodore Custom Configurator program is an innovative and unique marketing plan that was devised and developed with the intent to satisfy a huge demand from consumers for product configurations that are not offered by the company. There are literally thousands of potential combinations of motherboards, CPU’s, memory, HDD, optical drives and other internal and peripheral components that CUSA cannot produce due to the extremely complex logistics and supply chain management tissues that would be required to offer “one off” custom models of our product line. But this is exactly what the CCC is presently geared to do.

Terms

The CUSA Custom Con-Merchant program is the best and most innovative scam in Amigaland in along time. It was devised and developed by Barry to make him a quick buck out of the retro market after all his other get rich quick scams failed. There are literally zillions of ways to rip of potential mugs with this clever wee scheme and make yourself a bob or two along the way, just remeber da boss {Barry“ must get his cut or you’ll get a visit from one of the boys.

This program is not, and does not constitute a “Dealer Agreement”, nor in any way establishes any legal relationship between the CCC and the Company, other than that of an authorized wholesale buyer/system builder (CCC), and seller (CUSA).

Erm… anything said in this agreement is not legally binding and has been cleverly worded so that none of the blame can fall back on Baron Barry when the law nabs you and court case arise… got it…

There are no “Buy In” fees, Initial Basic Rights fees, Royalty fees, Commissions, or any other initial or ongoing charges to partake in the Commodore Custom Configurator Program. There will no trademark licensing fees, and CCC’s are authorized to utilize these iconic logos in their advertising and trade promotions.

There are no fees, cept of course the laundered money that must be delivered to Baron Barry before the end of each calendar month, otherwise expect a visit from his „business associates“… nuff said…

The only requirement (other than those outlined above under “Requirements”) is simply the requirement to purchase Commodore Barebones Units in minimum quantities of 10 units per order. These 10 units do not have to be all the same model, and the CCC is free to mix and match any number of different models, as long as the total order, and all subsequent reorders, are in lots of 10 units. 

The only requirements other than those outlined above, is dat you simple purchase enough goods to keep Barry happy each month and help build his underground empire into looking like a thriving legitimate business enterprise and that you keep up the payments or end up as fish food… got it…

Benefits

The Company, through its worldwide network of Official Authorized Commodore Custom Configurators, will benefit from the exposure of our Commodore and AMIGA products to an audience that finally has the opportunity to not only see, and feel firsthand, but purchase the exact custom configured model that they want. Additionally, the customer will not be paying for incoming freight charges, Customs Duties and other tariffs and charges that are incurred when purchasing online.

Benefits

Da company and it’s worldwide illegal network of unofficial unauthorised CUSA Custom Con-Merchants will benefit from the protection of Baron Barry and the code of silence about da business must be maintained at all times even under heavy interrogation from the authorities. Anyone one breaking the code of silence aint gonna like the accidents that will happen to them, so keep shtum or else…

The Commodore Custom Configurator will benefit from the exposure his company will receive from their listing as an Authorized Official Commodore Custom Configurator on a dedicated page on the official Commodore and AMIGA website www.commodore.net. This page will highlight all the information pertaining to the individual CCC, including their name, address, telephone numbers and links to the URL’s for any of their websites, etc. Support plans include promotional materials, including banners, signage, give-aways and other marketing specialities that shall be made available to the CCC when available.

The CUSA Custom Con-Mrchant will benefit from no exposure and his side of da business will receive encoded listings of other Con-Merchants just so that no-one tries to muscle in on any one else’s patch (we don’t want turf wars). All private and personal information will be held in Baron Barry’s little black book and will be burnt if raided by the authorities.

Build it, and they will come! 

Make cheap crap and sell at expensive prices and the junkies & bewildered will come running for it.

AGREEMENT made this date, (month/date/year) by and between the parties below.

Only sign this in blood (don’t use real names!!!).

Commodore USA, LLC (Official Business Name)
By: By:

Nuff said I think… 😉

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_CCC.aspx