Just when you thought the Amiga world was finally getting its act together, finally making things a little less obtuse for outsiders, this happens. So, we have the AmigaOne X1000 coming up, a brand-new PowerPC computer, running the real deal – AmigaOS 4. In the meantime, Commodore USA – the one with the sketchy website – has apparently secured rights to the Amiga hardware brand, and is planning to release Amiga-branded computers running AROS. In the meantime, Hyperion, the Belgium company behind AmigaOS, who is working with A-eon on the AmigaOne X1000, claims this is a clear violation of the settlement between them and Amiga Inc., and has notified its US lawyers.Commodore USA sent out a press release yesterday in which they state they’ve reached an agreement with Bill McEwen of Amiga, Inc. (one of the two companies named Amiga) in which Commodore USA may use the Amiga hardware brand on computers running AROS, the open source Amiga-inspired operating system.“We are ecstatic to be partnering with Amiga Inc. in this new, exciting product launch,“ states Barry Altman, President and CEO of Commodore USA, „The legacy of the Commodore and Amiga trademark brand, reunited once again after so many years, and our reintroduction of the legendary All-In-One computer keyboard form factor, combined with the twenty-five year anniversary of the introduction of the first Amiga computer by Commodore International, is a once in a lifetime opportunity.“My first thought was – wait, doesn’t this violate the settlement agreement between Amiga Inc. and Hyperion, which finally settled all the legal mumbo-jumbo in the Amiga world? It appears Hyperion believes that this is indeed a violation, and as such, they have asked their lawyers in the US to investigate the matter.
„Our American lawyers will take action against this,“ Hyperion states, „This is blatant violation of the rights Hyperion Entertainment secured in the settlement agreement with Amiga Inc., Itec and Amino.“
The facts here are that if there’s two companies I would blindly trust in the Amiga world, it’s Hyperion and ACube. These are the only two companies that have kept their promises and delivered actual working products we can buy today. Everyone else – including A-eon (until they ship the X1000) – are fair game.
The only conclusion I can draw from this is that my initial distrust of this Commodore USA thing was more than justified. Their website (shoddy doesn’t even begin to describe it), their rebranded products, their unilateral press releases which can’t be confirmed anywhere else but on their site… It all reeks of a massive con. Are their products even shipping, after months of promises?
Unless proven otherwise, I’m assuming for now that Commodore USA is, at best, a hoax, and at worst, a very inept con. They are properly registered as an LLC, though.
Well, this was rather unexpected. As it turns out, Commodore USA’s CEO Barry Altman isn’t particularly pleased about the article I wrote earlier today in which I placed a considerable amount of scepticism with regards to Commodore USA and its business (and website). He (not his lawyer) sent us a threatening email demanding we take down the article, post a new correction article, the whole shebang. The entire email – as an image, you’ll want the original formatting – after the break. Our reply? We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram.
A little over two months ago, OSNews had a bit of a run-in with Commodore USA’s CEO, about how I felt about the company and its rather dubious business practices. This led to alegal threat we laughed away here at OSNews, but laughable or not, a legal threat is a legal threat, and it never sat well with me that it was never retracted or apologised for. Well, that changed today.I received this statement today from Barry Altman, Commodore USA’s CEO.
Like many forum members, tech writers, and people in general, who sometimes react to statements in an inappropriate manner, I would like to:
retract the idiotic legal threat
apologize for the legal threat
Certainly a phone call would be considered appropriate before you print something, so you can have all the facts before determining your position.
The three points above came from me – before I would even be open towards changing my position on Commodore USA, the idiotic [my words] legal threat had to be retracted and an apology had to be made. The last point, about shipping something, refers to the fact that I believe Commodore USA should actually ship something as well.
My original opinion of Commodore USA, the opinion that started all this nonsense, still stands, and nothing has happened between then and now to soften that position (in fact, the threat only made it worse). We’ll have to see what the future brings, but in all honesty, I don’t have high hopes at this point.
Still, that silly threat has been retracted and apologised for, and that’s something I’m very happy with. No matter how silly it was, having a legal threat hover above your head simply isn’t something I particularly like.
I agree with +99% of all the suggestions posted here. We now have access to all the data from the old forum; it’s just a matter of extracting what we need, formatting and converting it and then implementing it into all the new categories in our new forum. (not easy).
The topic sections will be greatly expanded to make things easy to use such as specific categories for each different product, sub categories for the various OS variations, hardware & software support, suggestions, general discussions…basically everything we had before, and a lot more. Please keep in mind this may take a week or so (just a guess), but it is our top priority now, along with the updates for Commodore OS Vision & Commodore OS Fusion.
Please keep this quote from the NEWS section in mind as we move forward in this endeavor:
„Please take the time to read our TOS and FAQ. Please understand that this is our official corporate forum, and as such it’s primary purpose is to promote and support our products, our customers, potential future customers and those that have an interest in our line of retro and innovative contemporary products.“
We have no intention to edit, remove, alter, dismiss or in any way censor any of your posts, replies or suggestions. And this specifically includes me . What seemed like a heavy hand in the previous forum will not be the normal operating procedure here. I only ask that things remain civil, constructive criticism is welcome and the postings reflect the true spirit of what we are trying to accomplish. Unlike most other public forums, I would only ask that you think of this forum as my personal living room. All are welcome, but please don’t spit on the floor, use an ashtray, refrain from making nasty comments about the drapes and furniture and treat all our guests respectfully.
Postings that trash our products, trolls, those that reverse engineer our products with the intent to exemplify the costs and sources with the intent to either expose our private business and manufacturing processes, those that discus and or in any way promote our competitors products and those that in any fashion run contrary to our main forum purpose (read the above paragraph) will be deleted. Since this company is privately held, the will be no conversations regarding sales figures, profits and distributions and any other private information that normally would be disclosed for a publicly traded corporation.
The look and feel of this forum will be greatly improved as we intend to apply a new skin (open to immediate discussion and suggestion) There is a huge selection of skins that are available; just Google „vBulletin ver 4.2.0 skins“. There are thousands of selections to choose from….dig in and start exploring.
Lots to do, and with your continued support and patience, we look forward to presenting a truly remarkable and unique forum experience that we can all enjoy.
Barry promised to be a good guy, but corporate TOS makes them eliminate any discussion and resistance. Great Barry, that is the way to clean hands!
And yes Barry who is reverse engeenering whose products, please that part once again!
Note: Original Statememt (c) Barry Altman, CommodoreUSA Bolded words: Frank Spiers, Scotland Footer Bold/Comments: Vox, Serbia
Today, ACTA has fallen, so its time to celebrate. C=USA announces C=OS Fusion and some more „Amiga models… so lets roll to see what is behind …
First, we should hear C=USA mission statement, a mix up of everything out there.
Get ready …
With your help in spreading the word, your evangelism, your suggestions and your support, we hope to take the fight back to Apple, and to take on the ubiquitous PC vendors of the world, like Dell. It is time for a revolution against the ordinary. Think different, be different. Don’t follow the herd. Exclaim, I’m not a PC. I’m not a Mac. I’m a Commodore! I’m an AMIGA!
Who knows what will their next Amiga be? Lets vote
Meanwhile, there is a petition for you to sign, only if you like it
It has come to our attention that Commodore USA is about to launch a new line of „AMIGA(tm)“ branded computers using the classic Amiga(tm) naming convention. These new computers have absolutely nothing in common with the old Amiga(tm) computers other than the name.
This is the reason why we wholeheartedly appeal to you to reconsider using the old classic Amiga numbering in your new line of Commodore Amigas.
Amigaworld.net is no longer associated as C=OS support at Distro Watch. Commodore-Amiga forum only.
And how do they respect MINT dem a steal, pirates and lowlifes!
They contacted us and we talked about a partnership initially. Then we didn’t hear from them anymore so we assumed they weren’t interested in doing anything with us.
We’re still happy to see our OS used by others and I don’t think there’s any problems in regards to licensing. It’s just a missed opportunity for them and for us to establish what would have been a very good partnership.
There has been much criticism of the company CUSA because of its hype and claims of creating a „new operating system for our computers“ and then simply skinning an existing linux distribution. Critics of CUSA and several linux experts have stated that COS development time has been less than 2 weeks time to write some scripts and replace standard mint graphics files with their own