Архиве ознака: Support

Way Back Machine: Some of the past CUSA lies


 

Promised Amiga cases

Stealing Workbench name for OS and not showing it will be themed Linux

Also even C=OS is today beta 9 (almost two years after launch date) they wanted it to have 5.o name since Workbench 5 should be ahead of current AmigaOS Workbench 4.1 – trying to present isetlf fasely as AmigaOS ahead of AmigaOS

(as opossed to real Workbench history)

Read original news and how they praised AROS 

What they promised to AROS community (user Imica, Leo Negro, chief tech of C=USA)

Original news

„In response to an overwhelming demand from Amiga users worldwide, Commodore USA’s CTO Leo Nigro announced today that their new Amiga branded computers will be fully AROS compatible, and that they will be supporting the AROS open source community in every way possible. Mr. Nigro states “With the monumental strides that AROS has recently achieved, we realize the importance of accelerating this progress with funding that will enable this project to rapidly move forward and take it’s rightful place at the forefront of desktop operating systems”. With the recent announcement of their newly updated Commodore C64 model, and the acquisition of the Amiga brand exclusive trademark license, Commodore USA has once again catapulted the Commodore and Amiga namesake to the forefront of consumer electronics brand recognition.

as seen here 

Barron keeps up to it … almost

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=578528&postcount=183

Commodore USA was not set up as charity to support the development of AROS. It holds less than nothing of interest or importance to me, or 99.999999% of our intended market. It is a product that I or any other company could not use at all, as it has NO commercial value now, as is. So why are you all so concerned??
Our support was to help the group move ahead, and be part of a niche hobby group that seemed initially to be fun. I was wrong. Although some members expressed calm, sane, accurate and positive and open viewpoints, far too many exhibit behavior that is truly reprehensible. What is most amazing is the behavior and comments of the ‘Moderators“ UNREAL!! Aros is not a commercial product; it is not even close to a beta functional OS that has any use at this point in it’s development. Why some of you oppose the ONLY viable source of support is beyond me. Never has AROS received any promotion or publicity that comes remotely close to that that was gotten since my intended involvement. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. Why some of you find every facet of my life of interest is really sad. Don’t you have lives to live?

I’ll address some comments in particular. This is business, not nursery school. You know how much was spent and paid for the Commodore and Amiga IP over the last 15 years. Do your homework…we are talking close to 100 million dollars cumulative over all these years and by all the corporate entities that played the game. Price of entry is steep, and so is execution. Iggy has tons of more info that for some reason he chose not to share with you all.

As far as using abandoned artwork, no problem here. Marko Hirv cannot be reached. Period. I tried. No luck. And yes, I did email the company he is at now….again no reply. Find him…I’ll deal with him, or anyone else that falls into that category. Ever hear of an Iphone, boys and girls? Guess what…Jobs used it, took it, made it his own…knowing all the time it was the IP of Cisco. Ever hear of iTV, another recent product of the Apple guys. Also, no ownership…take it …use it…and then buy it if you must. Lawyers make a ton and the company gets what it wants, and the IP holder is paid. All good, no? That’s just a small example of how business is. I am not saying it is right, just giving you a lesson in reality.

Oh…..ONE MORE THING !!!! All you self righteous self appointed moral compasses out there with the huge mouths and not much else. JUST WHO LICENSED AMIGA.ORG THE AMIGA TRADEMARK PROPERTY APPEARING ON YOUR BANNER MASTHEAD??? NO ONE!!
Any comments on that flagrant violation of trademark law? I’ll be most interested in a reply to that one. Very interested.

So, enjoy your little clubhouse, I wish you well, and am sorry my leap into your little pond caused such an uproar. I never knew such muddy pond could even exist.

Barry“

Also, how they praise community, Amiga creativity and such

and then at real Amiga portals, you see how they bash all Amigas, especially trolls mentioned in menu

How is it possible that Commodore(USA)/Amiga is not real Amiga, but AmigaOne and AmigaOS are?


Amiga Inc settled with Hyperion to develop the OS alone in court

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_AmigaOS_4_dispute

And now sells only name.

Buyer is CommodoreUS small LCC that pretends to be big just because of VIC, COmmodore and Amiga names.

And who sold them the name?

Great fake company that didn`t developed AmigaOS at all

https://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/

And by buying CUSA products you sponsor Amiga Inc

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=35791&forum=44&5

What isn`t a parallel is that each CUSA customer supports Amiga Inc directly through licencing scheme.

Barry Altman sais:

Given the expressed desire to progress from being a licensee to
an owner of both Commodore and Amiga IP, is there any
progress on either of those fronts?
I can’t recall every publically making that statement.
Could you describe exactly how the legal situation stands
regarding the brand names (Commodore, Amiga, with
associated marks like „Boing Ball“ etc), and licenses and
ownership’s thereof?
The Commodore trademark is still being duked out in the courts, as we
have documented on our forum, commodore-amiga.org.
Amiga Inc, continues to own the AMIGA trademark and Boing Ball
trademark amongst other things. Our license covers Boing Ball
imagery on our Commodore Amigas.
How much did you pay Amiga Inc. for the rights to use the
Amiga name on your computers?
Such contracts are confidential between the parties to the agreement.
Do you pay Amiga Inc. a licensing fee for each machine sold, or
was it a single lump sum payment, or a combination of both?
I will this one time indulge you and say, both.

Sad thing: Amigans supporting fake Amiga company


1) Fake Commodore Amiga domain owned by CommodoreUSA

Nothing to do with real Amigas, AmigaOS, MorphOS and AROS with extreme censorship

Every criticism or anything Amiga related get deleted and users get banned for it

Other faked Amiga resources owned by CUSA

CommodoreUSA Web Page

Commodore USA Facebook

CommodoreUSA Twitter

CommodoreUSA You Tube

CommodoreUSA forums

All under EXTREME censorship!

2) DiscreetFX hosts Barron interview where everything Amiga is sipitted on, all the brave ideas of innovation

3) AmigaWorld.net has Amiga Inc discussions in basement and tolerates their promo

4)  CommodoreUSA Wiki page we fight for less propaganda (also: Talk page, COS page)

5) Amiga4be fake Amigan pages You Tube and Blog

6) Example of CUSA threating people that expose the truth

7) List of C=USA promoters that rarely do help AROS, MorphOS, AmigaOS and yet claiming to be Amigans

8) Barry Tweets

Follow Barry on Tweeter

Follow Barry C64 on Twitter

As opposed to Real Amiga resources